Friday, April 23, 2010

Arizona Governor signs tough immigration bill giving the police the powers to confirm you are in the country legally

MSNBC

in Arizona today, the governor signed one of the "toughest immigration bills" that the country is seen, basically making it "illegal to be in the country illegally" which I was under the assumption that it already was illegal to be in the country illegally. (those are not the droids you are seeking...)

Obama called the Arizona bill "misguided" and instructed the Justice Department to examine it to see if it's legal. He also said the federal government must enact immigration reform at the national level — or leave the door open to "irresponsibility by others." "That includes, for example, the recent efforts in Arizona, which threaten to undermine basic notions of fairness that we cherish as Americans, as well as the trust between police and their communities that is so crucial to keeping us safe," Obama said.


"... which threaten to undermine basic notions of fairness that we cherish as Americans... do you think that it is fair that we've been turning our backs and "allowing" the flood of millions of illegal immigrants to enter this country and violating the sanctity of our borders and forcing our children to learn Spanish as being basic notion of FAIRNESS?

This is nothing short of an invasion and we've turned our backs to it.


'Spiral of pervasive fear'
The legislation, sent to the Republican governor by the GOP-led Legislature, makes it a crime under state law to be in the country illegally. It also requires local police officers to question people about their immigration status if there is reason to suspect they are illegal immigrants, allows lawsuits against government agencies that hinder enforcement of immigration laws, and make it illegal to hire illegal immigrants for day labor or knowingly transport them.
The law sends "a clear message that Arizona is unfriendly to undocumented aliens," said Peter Spiro, a Temple University law professor and author of the book "Beyond Citizenship: American Identity After Globalization."

It is interesting, that the GOP sent legislation to the governor to "make it a crime to be in the country illegally" when it is already a crime to be in the country illegally. However, thanks to the federal government, nobody enforces that law.

That is what Arizona by signing this bill into law is saying that is giving law enforcement the power to check someone's immigration status. This is no different than a police officer running somebody's record and see if they are wanted for a particular crime such as a burglar or trespasser.

At the very least... a illegal alien is a trespasser. On a bigger scale, especially when accompanied by a large number of people who violate the borders is technically an invasion and therefore threatens the security of the country.

Those who harbor or encouraged or higher illegal aliens are not patriots in fact, they are exacerbating the problem.


"A thousand people a day are being deported. A thousand families being destroyed. And this comes at a very high moral and financial cost to this nation," said Maria Rodriguez, executive director of the Florida Immigration Coalition.

How many people per day are arrested for crimes they commit such as burglary, robbery or car theft? How many families are destroyed because a family member or a parent is put in prison for these crimes?

Entering into a country illegally is a crime... how is that any different from the above example?

And why do we not hear people clamoring to let the millions of people out of prison because it has separated families?

The people are imprisoned (excluding the innocent) knew what they were doing and the consequences when they committed the crime that they were charged for. Illegal immigrants were fully aware of the consequences of their actions when they made the conscious decision to step over that line into a foreign country.


"Millions of Latinos around the country are shocked," said William Sanchez, president of the National Coalition of Latino Clergy and Christian Leaders Legal Defense Fund.
Mexico has warned the proposal could affect cross-border relations. On Thursday, Mexico's Senate unanimously passed a resolution urging Brewer to veto the law.

The Mafia and the drug cartel also thought that it could affect relations by the police arresting their people.

Guatemalan Vice President Rafael Estrada said the law "is a step back for those migrants who have fought" for their rights. Guatemala's Foreign Relations Department decried the measure in a statement saying "it threatens basic notions of justice."

OMG, gimme a break. "It threatens the basic notions of justice?"
Immigrants have the right to come through the front door and apply for citizenship just like people have done for generations.
What threatens the notion of justice is the fact that we have not enforced the immigration laws, have not gone after employers who hire illegal immigrants (who also violate wage and hour laws, OSHA, and other employment related laws by hiring illegal immigrants)
like it or not... WE as a nation are just as responsible for the problem as the immigrant that knowingly crossed the border illegally.
Because of greed, subminimum wages, etc. has encouraged people to take the risk and come here and to settle here for their families.
This has created a new generation of children who thanks to their parents indiscretion have placed them into a predicament where they must constantly look over their shoulder and risk deportation to a country that they had never known.
As I have said many times before, this is a really bad form of child abuse to place a child into this type of situation.
Here's my proposal...
Children who were brought here at an early age and have been here for several years would be granted amnesty.
The children's IMMEDIATE family (mother, father, brother, sister) would also be granted amnesty provided that they follow the INS requirements, which includes learning English.
All others would have one year to leave the country and will be allowed to apply through proper channels to reenter the country legally.
After one year, entering or being in the United States illegally changes from a misdemeanor to a felony, which include imprisonment.

The governor basically echoed the concerns and its citizens that if the federal government is not going to enforce the laws of our nation and protect its citizens, and the states will have to step in and do it themselves.
I do not fully agree with the new law, I do understand it.

3 comments:

Gary said...

Robin, you are going soft when you talk about amnesty. Just like the draft dodgers that went to Canada instead of being drafted and sent to Vietnam. Amnesty hurts the people who play by the rules. That's not right!

When the federal government fails in it's duty to protect it's citizens by securing our boarders, it leave the states no option other than to protect the safety and security of states citizens. It may not be the best law ever written but Arizona has major crime issues due to illegal immigrants coming over the boarder. They were placed in the position that they had to do something. They have waited too long for the Federal government to enforce the immigration laws. The view is different in Arizona than it is from Washington DC.

Robin said...

No, I agree with you Gary.
They had to do something and giving a free ride and rewarding people for breaking the law just because the numbers are so massive that it can't be enforced really sends the wrong message.

at the very least, Arizona is doing something versus sitting on their hands like the federal government. In fact, New Mexico is now very concerned because they are afraid that illegal immigrants are going to be exiting in mass numbers to their state instead of going home.

And that's the other point, one state can not just put on regulations and expect to solve the problem for self deportation as long as are other places to go in the United States.

at least Arizona is bringing the issue back into the forefront and forcing people including the federal government to look at it

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