the LA Times
Consider this... Arizona's immigration law Senate Bill 1070 does nothing more than to give the police the authority where reasonable suspicion exists [and who has been lawfully contacted] that a person is unlawfully present in the United States to determine the immigration status of that person.
Which is really the only thing the Arizona law does is ask for proof of citizenship status such as a driver's license.
The Department of Justice however has threatened to take Arizona to court and here's where an interesting quandary comes to play.
The only thing that the Arizona law does is enforce federal immigration laws
So consider this scenario... the Department of Justice takes Arizona to court and wins. That could set a precedence nullifying our whole immigration system.
Think about it.
The only reasons that the federal government is even upset over the Arizona law is...
1) They claim that the law will lead to racial profiling. [An excuse]
2) They claimed that for fear of prosecution that illegal immigrants will be afraid to report crimes and therefore make them more likely to be victims of crimes. [A valid point, just like any other criminal would be afraid to call the police.]
3) The feds are embarrassed that a state actually took it upon themselves to start enforcing federal laws where the federal government has refused to do so which has allowed the situation to get out of hand.
4) oh yes, it makes President Obama look bad because he has not pursued his "comprehensive" immigration reform policy. In addition, with the majority of the people supporting the Arizona law, it sends a message that AMNESTY is totally out of the question.
So really if anybody's suing anybody, it should be the states suing the federal government for not enforcing immigration laws and not protecting our borders which they are required to do so by the Constitution.
Another failure of the federal government is that employers are required to have an employee fill out and sign a INS I-9 form to document that you have the RIGHT to work within the United States. That's the law! How many times have you heard anybody being prosecuted for falsifying this form? or for that matter... ask to see the form?
Additionally, when's the last time you heard anybody getting prosecuted for falsifying a Social Security number? last time I checked, that was supposed to be a serious crime.
It's going to be a battle... one that I fear could wind up in a civil war if we are are not careful.
First and foremost, not just for the reason of illegal immigration, but also for the security of the nation we have to make it a priority to secure our borders.
Sunday, May 30, 2010
Wednesday, May 26, 2010
Governor Ted "tax and gouge me" is expressing the financial frustration that we have lived with under his rule
the Portland Tribune --
Governor Ted "tax and gouge me" wants to cut 9% across-the-board in the state's general fund to close a budget gap.
did I read that correctly? "lower-than-expected personal income tax collections." Those idiots actually think that the Oregon's recession is over and everything is fine out here?
I think one thing that you can safely count on is that when you have high unemployment, businesses closing and leaving the area, record number of foreclosures and bankruptcies, you're going to have "lower-than-expected personal income tax collections." Like duh!
yes folks, SCHOOLS. Please open your wallets, it's for the kids!
cough, cough, gag…. please, I think I'm going to be sick.
Kulongoski, we've been trying to get you to wake up and pay attention to the problem for years and the only thing coming out of your office is more taxes, more taxes and more taxes, and NOW you're wanting to start trimming the budget?
And now here you go again with the excuse that schools do not have enough money (again) well, I have two words for you.
Independent audit.
get a clue... the recession is NOT over yet and just like the people, government needs to tighten its belt as well and start taking the recession seriously.
the money tree had lost all this leaves
Governor Ted "tax and gouge me" wants to cut 9% across-the-board in the state's general fund to close a budget gap.
"During a hearing before the Senate Revenue Committee, state economists Tom Potiowsky told lawmakers that even though Oregon’s recession is likely over , job growth is too weak to overcome losses for the year.
That translates to a $511 million drop in state general fund revenue for 2009-11 from the March economic forecast, Potiowsky said, due mainly to lower-than-expected personal income tax collections.
The projected ending balance for the biennium shows a shortfall of $562.6 million, he said.
did I read that correctly? "lower-than-expected personal income tax collections." Those idiots actually think that the Oregon's recession is over and everything is fine out here?
I think one thing that you can safely count on is that when you have high unemployment, businesses closing and leaving the area, record number of foreclosures and bankruptcies, you're going to have "lower-than-expected personal income tax collections." Like duh!
"But, because of the bad economic news, and its potential to grow during the next few months, Kulongoski’s proposed cuts will likely hit school funds as well as other service programs".
yes folks, SCHOOLS. Please open your wallets, it's for the kids!
"We could gamble and hope that the next forecast in September delivers a rebound and the hole is diminished, but the longer we wait, the deeper the cuts that will be needed to rebalanced the budget in the remaining months of the biennium if that does not occur,” Kulongoski said. “Throughout my tenure as governor where I have managed the state through two devastating recessions, I have learned — and am convinced — that in a situation like this, that the best response is swift and decisive action. [Zzzzzzzz What!]"...
Portland Public Schools could face an additional $19 million reduction in funds under the governor’s proposal.
cough, cough, gag…. please, I think I'm going to be sick.
Kulongoski, we've been trying to get you to wake up and pay attention to the problem for years and the only thing coming out of your office is more taxes, more taxes and more taxes, and NOW you're wanting to start trimming the budget?
And now here you go again with the excuse that schools do not have enough money (again) well, I have two words for you.
Independent audit.
get a clue... the recession is NOT over yet and just like the people, government needs to tighten its belt as well and start taking the recession seriously.
the money tree had lost all this leaves
Tuesday, May 25, 2010
1200 National Guard troops sent to the US-Mexican border
Reuters --
President Obama sending 1200 National Guard troops and is seeking $500 million for security after demands from both Democrats and Republicans to protect the border.
I think is the president bowing to the the fact that the majority of Americans polled are actually in favor of the Arizona law and do not favor amnesty.
However, to only send 1200 troops to help protect our nation's border is a joke and also a sign that the security of our country which is the president's responsibility as part of his oath of office is nothing more than a political farce.
The American people in my opinion are getting tired of the politically correct crowd and biting their tongue on opinions on issues that they feel important such as the illegal immigration.
It's wrong, and people are starting to say enough is enough.
President Obama sending 1200 National Guard troops and is seeking $500 million for security after demands from both Democrats and Republicans to protect the border.
"The announcement comes as the Democratic president seeks Republican support for a sweeping overhaul of U.S. immigration laws, and seeks to rally opposition to a tough new immigration law in Arizona that has caused tension in U.S. relations with Mexico, without seeming soft on illegal border crossings."
I think is the president bowing to the the fact that the majority of Americans polled are actually in favor of the Arizona law and do not favor amnesty.
However, to only send 1200 troops to help protect our nation's border is a joke and also a sign that the security of our country which is the president's responsibility as part of his oath of office is nothing more than a political farce.
The American people in my opinion are getting tired of the politically correct crowd and biting their tongue on opinions on issues that they feel important such as the illegal immigration.
It's wrong, and people are starting to say enough is enough.
Monday, May 24, 2010
the Arizona law -- more than just about illegal immigration
Robin's Commentary --
There is been quite a controversy over Arizona's immigration law which has opened the eyes of the people in several areas.
One of them being that there are people in the federal government who are criticizing the Arizona law, who have NEVER READ THE LAW ITSELF.
A trend that we're seeing in our government both local and federal, where our REPRESENTATIVES are voting on or criticizing laws that they have never read.
Additionally, the other message that the federal government is sending regarding the Arizona law, is that "the states do not have the right to enforce federal laws" even though failure of the federal government to enforce the laws is affecting the safety of US citizens.
The murder of a popular farmer in Arizona was the last straw so to speak as far as waiting for the federal government to do its job and protect our borders.
The people in Arizona finally said, "Enough is enough" and decided to pick up the ball where the government has left off.
But it sends another unintended signal as well.
The fact that the federal government is turning its back to illegal immigration and not securing our borders and protecting the sanctity of our nation brings into question to why anybody should be concerned about following any law, especially if enough people decide they don't like it and the government refuses to enforce it.
A recent article in the Oregonian, titled "Some Oregon contractors ignoring new federal [EPA paint certification] law that went into effect in April, stating that "most contractors have not gotten their certification, and are not following the Environmental Protection Agency rule that went into effect in April."
What is interesting about this article is not so much about the contractors not getting certified, but the comments that readers are saying. For example...
This article had nothing to do with immigration, however, it shows that people are getting so fed up with the federal government not enforcing our immigration laws, they are asking themselves why they should be concerned about any federal law.
It is a trend in my opinion that if we're not careful, will be the downfall of our nation.
There is been quite a controversy over Arizona's immigration law which has opened the eyes of the people in several areas.
One of them being that there are people in the federal government who are criticizing the Arizona law, who have NEVER READ THE LAW ITSELF.
A trend that we're seeing in our government both local and federal, where our REPRESENTATIVES are voting on or criticizing laws that they have never read.
Additionally, the other message that the federal government is sending regarding the Arizona law, is that "the states do not have the right to enforce federal laws" even though failure of the federal government to enforce the laws is affecting the safety of US citizens.
The murder of a popular farmer in Arizona was the last straw so to speak as far as waiting for the federal government to do its job and protect our borders.
The people in Arizona finally said, "Enough is enough" and decided to pick up the ball where the government has left off.
But it sends another unintended signal as well.
The fact that the federal government is turning its back to illegal immigration and not securing our borders and protecting the sanctity of our nation brings into question to why anybody should be concerned about following any law, especially if enough people decide they don't like it and the government refuses to enforce it.
A recent article in the Oregonian, titled "Some Oregon contractors ignoring new federal [EPA paint certification] law that went into effect in April, stating that "most contractors have not gotten their certification, and are not following the Environmental Protection Agency rule that went into effect in April."
What is interesting about this article is not so much about the contractors not getting certified, but the comments that readers are saying. For example...
posted by Pondy 123 "
MILLIONS every year ignore and break a federal law, and they are REWARDED with FREE education, FREE medical care, TAX-FREE income, SPECIAL treatment, etc........... they are called ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.......contractors that break the lead laws will face far greater consequences-- is that justice?"
Posted by hartsf
"Pondy---You're absolutely correct--but, remember, laws ONLY apply to certain individuals--but, NOT illegals, they are exempt. Anyone who thinks otherwise, is a racist---THAT is what libs, illegals and Obama tells us. So be it.....ENFORCE US Immigration Law!"
Posted by RedFly
"Oregon government supports illegal aliens, why should Oregon citizens support the government."
Posted by TankFixer
"So we are supposed to ask for a contractors lead certification but are evil if we ask if the workers are legally in this country? Simply pathetic."
Posted by Oregon patriot
"the contractors are justified in "skirting the new federal rules." Until the Obama ministration follows all the federal rules, the contractors should ignore this remodeling rule. Think of it as nonviolent civil disobedience."
This article had nothing to do with immigration, however, it shows that people are getting so fed up with the federal government not enforcing our immigration laws, they are asking themselves why they should be concerned about any federal law.
It is a trend in my opinion that if we're not careful, will be the downfall of our nation.
Wednesday, May 19, 2010
Arizona's Corporation Commissioner to the city of Los Angeles, better think twice before boycotting us...
because we have the power... literally!
Fox news--
in response to Los Angeles boycotting Arizona because of the new immigration law,the now head of Arizona Corporation commission Gary Pierce wrote this letter to the mayor of Los Angeles in response to the boycott.
Currently, Los Angeles gets 25% of its electricity from Arizona.
(snicker) Check.... LA, it's your move
in response to Los Angeles boycotting Arizona because of the new immigration law,the now head of Arizona Corporation commission Gary Pierce wrote this letter to the mayor of Los Angeles in response to the boycott.
"If an economic boycott is truly what you desire, I will be happy to encourage Arizona utilities to renegotiate your power agreements so Los Angeles no longer receives any power from Arizona-based generation."
"If, however, you find that the city council lacks the strength of its convictions to turn off the lights in Los Angeles and boycott Arizona power, please reconsider the wisdom of attempting to harm Arizona's economy."
Currently, Los Angeles gets 25% of its electricity from Arizona.
(snicker) Check.... LA, it's your move
Sunday, May 09, 2010
An interesting point
This is floating around the internet and I thought that it made a very good point that I wanted to display it here.
Obviously this does not described the immigrant who decided that it was too much trouble to apply for citizenship, stand in line, study and learn the language of the land and go to the front door like everybody else.
Nope. These people feel that it was much easier to just cross the borders illegally and congregate in large masses in hopes that history would repeat itself by offering blanket amnesty as Ronald Reagan did.
Personally, I think the reaction over the Arizona law surprised a lot of people on both sides.
As much as the media and government tries to portray the laws unpopularity, the people are saying otherwise with their letters to the editors, comments to articles and on the blogs.
it is very unfortunate that the LEGAL immigrant is being drug into this because of the laziness of their former countrymen who are just too lazy to do the right thing.
The message being sent is quite simple. Be legal and be welcome.
Dear Editor,
So many letter writers have based their arguments on how this land is made up of immigrants. Ernie Lujan for one, suggest we should tear down the statue of liberty because the people now in question aren't being treated the same as those who passed through Ellis Island and other ports of entry.
Maybe we should turn to our history books and point out to people like Mr. Lujan why today's American is not willing to accept this new kind of immigrants any longer. Back in 1900 when there was a rush from all areas of Europe to come to the United States, people had to get off a ship and stand in a long line in New York and be documented. Some would even get down on their hands and knees and kiss the ground.
They made a pledge to uphold the laws and support their new country in good and bad times. They may learning English a primary role in their new American households and some even change their names to blend in with their new home.
They had waived goodbye to their birthplace to give their children a new life and did everything in their power to help their children assimilate into one culture. Nothing was handed to them. No free lunches, no welfare, no labor laws to protect them. All they had were the skills and craftsmanship that they had brought with them to trade for a future of prosperity.
Most of their children came of age when World War II broke out. My father fought alongside men whose parents had come straight over from Germany, Italy, France and Japan. None of these first-generation Americans ever gave any thought about what country they're parents had come from. They were Americans fighting Hitler, Mussolini and the Empire of Japan. They were defending the United States of America as one people.
When we liberated France, no one in those villages were looking for the French and American or at the German-American or the Irish-American. The people of France saw only Americans. And we carried one flag that represented one country. Not one of those immigrant sons would have thought about picking up another country flag and waving it to represent who they were. It would have been a disgrace to their parents who had sacrificed so much to be here.
These immigrants truly knew what it meant to be an American. They stirred the melting pot into one red, white and blue bowl.
And here we are with the new kind immigrant who wants the same rights and privileges. Only they want to achieve it by playing a different set of rules, one that includes the entitlement card and a guarantee of being faithful to their mother country.
I am sorry, that's not what being an American is all about.
I believe the immigrants who landed on Ellis Island in the early 19 hunters deserve better than that for all the toil, hard work and sacrifice in raising future generations to create a land that has become a beacon for those illegally searching for a better life. I think they would be appalled that they are being used as an example by those waving foreign country flags.
And for that suggestion about taking down the Statue of Liberty, it happens to mean a lot to the citizens were voting on immigration bill. I wouldn't start talking about dismantling the United States just yet.
Rosemary LaBonte
Obviously this does not described the immigrant who decided that it was too much trouble to apply for citizenship, stand in line, study and learn the language of the land and go to the front door like everybody else.
Nope. These people feel that it was much easier to just cross the borders illegally and congregate in large masses in hopes that history would repeat itself by offering blanket amnesty as Ronald Reagan did.
Personally, I think the reaction over the Arizona law surprised a lot of people on both sides.
As much as the media and government tries to portray the laws unpopularity, the people are saying otherwise with their letters to the editors, comments to articles and on the blogs.
it is very unfortunate that the LEGAL immigrant is being drug into this because of the laziness of their former countrymen who are just too lazy to do the right thing.
The message being sent is quite simple. Be legal and be welcome.
Thursday, April 29, 2010
a quick thought regarding the recent oil spill
Robin's commentary
for years, the EPA and the federal government have been opposed to offshore oil drilling and when President Obama finally decided to investigate the feasibility of offshore oil drilling, we have the oil spill and explosion from a BP site in the Gulf of Mexico.
coincidence?
More information about the oil spill from Bloomberg
for years, the EPA and the federal government have been opposed to offshore oil drilling and when President Obama finally decided to investigate the feasibility of offshore oil drilling, we have the oil spill and explosion from a BP site in the Gulf of Mexico.
“The questions about the practices of the oil industry raised in the wake of this still-unfolding incident require that you postpone indefinitely plans for expanded offshore drilling operations,” Florida Senator Nelson wrote in a letter to the president.
coincidence?
More information about the oil spill from Bloomberg
Arizona -- making it illegal to be illegal (like Duh!!!)
Robin's commentary --
Arizona passed one of the toughest laws in the nation regarding illegal aliens...
They made it illegal to be illegal.
As stupid as that may sound... Arizona is actually picking up the slack where the federal government has dropped the ball. They have given authorization for police to check someone's immigration status if they are stopped for a LEGITIMATE reason. This has nothing to do with racial profiling as people who oppose the new law are trying to make it sound.
Let me spell this out for those who have trouble comprehending.
If you break into somebody's house you are now a criminal and you risk being arrested. Most criminals who get caught is due to some minor for traffic infraction.
Entering a foreign country unauthorized is a crime, which makes you a criminal, and if you are caught, you risk being arrested.
Under the old system, the police may discover that you are a wanted burglar by running your criminal record, however, they are not allowed check your citizenship status.
The only thing the new system does is that it gives the police the power to verify your immigration status by checking your driver's license or some other form of ID which by the way carrying ID is required already in most states. So therefore, if you are stopped for a legitimate reason and the police discover that you are not authorized to be in the United States, they now have the power to take appropriate action such as place you under arrest and leaving it up to the courts to decide what to do with you.
Remember, just as the burglar fully knew the consequences before breaking into that house, the illegal alien fully knew the consequences before crossing the border.
Now that Arizona has decided to start enforcing immigration laws, people are now calling foul and claiming that it is unfair.
To those people that are in opposition to enforce immigration laws, I ask what you feel is a solution.
Do you feel that we should just totally ignore the situation and leave our borders wide open for anybody that wishes to enter the country at will any time?
Are you fully prepared for the consequences?
And what is the message it sends to our children? That it is okay to break any law as long as enough people decide they don't want to follow it?
In that case why have speed limits?
Here's the point...
When you have a large mass of people who enter a foreign country illegally that is officially called an invasion.
And one way to judge the success of that invasion is when the schools starts requiring the grades 1-12 to learn the language of the invading country such as the one in Oregon. (Mexico has succeeded by the numbers where Japan and Germany has failed)
In closing, with 70% of the people in Arizona being in favor of the bill and other states considering to follow suit, it is going to be very interesting to see how this will play out.
At the very least, it brings the discussion of the illegal immigration back to the forefront.
I want to remind everybody... that WE as a nation are also responsible for letting illegal immigration to get to the point that it has.
We are part of the problem... and we have to be part of the solution. 12 million plus people are not going to be deported or simply leave.
This is my suggestion.
I do not believe that amnesty should be handed out as a reward for people who knowingly broke the law. However, the victims of illegal aliens are the children who were brought here at a very early age and their home country is now foreign to them. Therefore, deportation of these children is not practical or humane.
These children should be offered citizenship along with their immediate family (mother, father, brother, sister) in accordance with current INS regulations, which also includes learning English and assimilation into the culture.
After one year after the implementation of the new law, it would now be a federal crime instead of a misdemeanor to be in this country unauthorized and therefore punishment by jail time, chipped and deported.
This way, it would be fair to the children and harsh on the individuals who still refuse to go through proper channels for lawful status to be in the country.
Arizona passed one of the toughest laws in the nation regarding illegal aliens...
They made it illegal to be illegal.
As stupid as that may sound... Arizona is actually picking up the slack where the federal government has dropped the ball. They have given authorization for police to check someone's immigration status if they are stopped for a LEGITIMATE reason. This has nothing to do with racial profiling as people who oppose the new law are trying to make it sound.
Let me spell this out for those who have trouble comprehending.
If you break into somebody's house you are now a criminal and you risk being arrested. Most criminals who get caught is due to some minor for traffic infraction.
Entering a foreign country unauthorized is a crime, which makes you a criminal, and if you are caught, you risk being arrested.
Under the old system, the police may discover that you are a wanted burglar by running your criminal record, however, they are not allowed check your citizenship status.
The only thing the new system does is that it gives the police the power to verify your immigration status by checking your driver's license or some other form of ID which by the way carrying ID is required already in most states. So therefore, if you are stopped for a legitimate reason and the police discover that you are not authorized to be in the United States, they now have the power to take appropriate action such as place you under arrest and leaving it up to the courts to decide what to do with you.
Remember, just as the burglar fully knew the consequences before breaking into that house, the illegal alien fully knew the consequences before crossing the border.
Now that Arizona has decided to start enforcing immigration laws, people are now calling foul and claiming that it is unfair.
To those people that are in opposition to enforce immigration laws, I ask what you feel is a solution.
Do you feel that we should just totally ignore the situation and leave our borders wide open for anybody that wishes to enter the country at will any time?
Are you fully prepared for the consequences?
And what is the message it sends to our children? That it is okay to break any law as long as enough people decide they don't want to follow it?
In that case why have speed limits?
Here's the point...
When you have a large mass of people who enter a foreign country illegally that is officially called an invasion.
And one way to judge the success of that invasion is when the schools starts requiring the grades 1-12 to learn the language of the invading country such as the one in Oregon. (Mexico has succeeded by the numbers where Japan and Germany has failed)
In closing, with 70% of the people in Arizona being in favor of the bill and other states considering to follow suit, it is going to be very interesting to see how this will play out.
At the very least, it brings the discussion of the illegal immigration back to the forefront.
I want to remind everybody... that WE as a nation are also responsible for letting illegal immigration to get to the point that it has.
We are part of the problem... and we have to be part of the solution. 12 million plus people are not going to be deported or simply leave.
This is my suggestion.
I do not believe that amnesty should be handed out as a reward for people who knowingly broke the law. However, the victims of illegal aliens are the children who were brought here at a very early age and their home country is now foreign to them. Therefore, deportation of these children is not practical or humane.
These children should be offered citizenship along with their immediate family (mother, father, brother, sister) in accordance with current INS regulations, which also includes learning English and assimilation into the culture.
After one year after the implementation of the new law, it would now be a federal crime instead of a misdemeanor to be in this country unauthorized and therefore punishment by jail time, chipped and deported.
This way, it would be fair to the children and harsh on the individuals who still refuse to go through proper channels for lawful status to be in the country.
Friday, April 23, 2010
Arizona Governor signs tough immigration bill giving the police the powers to confirm you are in the country legally
MSNBC
in Arizona today, the governor signed one of the "toughest immigration bills" that the country is seen, basically making it "illegal to be in the country illegally" which I was under the assumption that it already was illegal to be in the country illegally. (those are not the droids you are seeking...)
Obama called the Arizona bill "misguided" and instructed the Justice Department to examine it to see if it's legal. He also said the federal government must enact immigration reform at the national level — or leave the door open to "irresponsibility by others." "That includes, for example, the recent efforts in Arizona, which threaten to undermine basic notions of fairness that we cherish as Americans, as well as the trust between police and their communities that is so crucial to keeping us safe," Obama said.
"... which threaten to undermine basic notions of fairness that we cherish as Americans... do you think that it is fair that we've been turning our backs and "allowing" the flood of millions of illegal immigrants to enter this country and violating the sanctity of our borders and forcing our children to learn Spanish as being basic notion of FAIRNESS?
This is nothing short of an invasion and we've turned our backs to it.
'Spiral of pervasive fear'
The legislation, sent to the Republican governor by the GOP-led Legislature, makes it a crime under state law to be in the country illegally. It also requires local police officers to question people about their immigration status if there is reason to suspect they are illegal immigrants, allows lawsuits against government agencies that hinder enforcement of immigration laws, and make it illegal to hire illegal immigrants for day labor or knowingly transport them.
The law sends "a clear message that Arizona is unfriendly to undocumented aliens," said Peter Spiro, a Temple University law professor and author of the book "Beyond Citizenship: American Identity After Globalization."
It is interesting, that the GOP sent legislation to the governor to "make it a crime to be in the country illegally" when it is already a crime to be in the country illegally. However, thanks to the federal government, nobody enforces that law.
That is what Arizona by signing this bill into law is saying that is giving law enforcement the power to check someone's immigration status. This is no different than a police officer running somebody's record and see if they are wanted for a particular crime such as a burglar or trespasser.
At the very least... a illegal alien is a trespasser. On a bigger scale, especially when accompanied by a large number of people who violate the borders is technically an invasion and therefore threatens the security of the country.
Those who harbor or encouraged or higher illegal aliens are not patriots in fact, they are exacerbating the problem.
"A thousand people a day are being deported. A thousand families being destroyed. And this comes at a very high moral and financial cost to this nation," said Maria Rodriguez, executive director of the Florida Immigration Coalition.
How many people per day are arrested for crimes they commit such as burglary, robbery or car theft? How many families are destroyed because a family member or a parent is put in prison for these crimes?
Entering into a country illegally is a crime... how is that any different from the above example?
And why do we not hear people clamoring to let the millions of people out of prison because it has separated families?
The people are imprisoned (excluding the innocent) knew what they were doing and the consequences when they committed the crime that they were charged for. Illegal immigrants were fully aware of the consequences of their actions when they made the conscious decision to step over that line into a foreign country.
"Millions of Latinos around the country are shocked," said William Sanchez, president of the National Coalition of Latino Clergy and Christian Leaders Legal Defense Fund.
Mexico has warned the proposal could affect cross-border relations. On Thursday, Mexico's Senate unanimously passed a resolution urging Brewer to veto the law.
The Mafia and the drug cartel also thought that it could affect relations by the police arresting their people.
Guatemalan Vice President Rafael Estrada said the law "is a step back for those migrants who have fought" for their rights. Guatemala's Foreign Relations Department decried the measure in a statement saying "it threatens basic notions of justice."
OMG, gimme a break. "It threatens the basic notions of justice?"
Immigrants have the right to come through the front door and apply for citizenship just like people have done for generations.
What threatens the notion of justice is the fact that we have not enforced the immigration laws, have not gone after employers who hire illegal immigrants (who also violate wage and hour laws, OSHA, and other employment related laws by hiring illegal immigrants)
like it or not... WE as a nation are just as responsible for the problem as the immigrant that knowingly crossed the border illegally.
Because of greed, subminimum wages, etc. has encouraged people to take the risk and come here and to settle here for their families.
This has created a new generation of children who thanks to their parents indiscretion have placed them into a predicament where they must constantly look over their shoulder and risk deportation to a country that they had never known.
As I have said many times before, this is a really bad form of child abuse to place a child into this type of situation.
Here's my proposal...
Children who were brought here at an early age and have been here for several years would be granted amnesty.
The children's IMMEDIATE family (mother, father, brother, sister) would also be granted amnesty provided that they follow the INS requirements, which includes learning English.
All others would have one year to leave the country and will be allowed to apply through proper channels to reenter the country legally.
After one year, entering or being in the United States illegally changes from a misdemeanor to a felony, which include imprisonment.
The governor basically echoed the concerns and its citizens that if the federal government is not going to enforce the laws of our nation and protect its citizens, and the states will have to step in and do it themselves.
I do not fully agree with the new law, I do understand it.
in Arizona today, the governor signed one of the "toughest immigration bills" that the country is seen, basically making it "illegal to be in the country illegally" which I was under the assumption that it already was illegal to be in the country illegally. (those are not the droids you are seeking...)
Obama called the Arizona bill "misguided" and instructed the Justice Department to examine it to see if it's legal. He also said the federal government must enact immigration reform at the national level — or leave the door open to "irresponsibility by others." "That includes, for example, the recent efforts in Arizona, which threaten to undermine basic notions of fairness that we cherish as Americans, as well as the trust between police and their communities that is so crucial to keeping us safe," Obama said.
"... which threaten to undermine basic notions of fairness that we cherish as Americans... do you think that it is fair that we've been turning our backs and "allowing" the flood of millions of illegal immigrants to enter this country and violating the sanctity of our borders and forcing our children to learn Spanish as being basic notion of FAIRNESS?
This is nothing short of an invasion and we've turned our backs to it.
'Spiral of pervasive fear'
The legislation, sent to the Republican governor by the GOP-led Legislature, makes it a crime under state law to be in the country illegally. It also requires local police officers to question people about their immigration status if there is reason to suspect they are illegal immigrants, allows lawsuits against government agencies that hinder enforcement of immigration laws, and make it illegal to hire illegal immigrants for day labor or knowingly transport them.
The law sends "a clear message that Arizona is unfriendly to undocumented aliens," said Peter Spiro, a Temple University law professor and author of the book "Beyond Citizenship: American Identity After Globalization."
It is interesting, that the GOP sent legislation to the governor to "make it a crime to be in the country illegally" when it is already a crime to be in the country illegally. However, thanks to the federal government, nobody enforces that law.
That is what Arizona by signing this bill into law is saying that is giving law enforcement the power to check someone's immigration status. This is no different than a police officer running somebody's record and see if they are wanted for a particular crime such as a burglar or trespasser.
At the very least... a illegal alien is a trespasser. On a bigger scale, especially when accompanied by a large number of people who violate the borders is technically an invasion and therefore threatens the security of the country.
Those who harbor or encouraged or higher illegal aliens are not patriots in fact, they are exacerbating the problem.
"A thousand people a day are being deported. A thousand families being destroyed. And this comes at a very high moral and financial cost to this nation," said Maria Rodriguez, executive director of the Florida Immigration Coalition.
How many people per day are arrested for crimes they commit such as burglary, robbery or car theft? How many families are destroyed because a family member or a parent is put in prison for these crimes?
Entering into a country illegally is a crime... how is that any different from the above example?
And why do we not hear people clamoring to let the millions of people out of prison because it has separated families?
The people are imprisoned (excluding the innocent) knew what they were doing and the consequences when they committed the crime that they were charged for. Illegal immigrants were fully aware of the consequences of their actions when they made the conscious decision to step over that line into a foreign country.
"Millions of Latinos around the country are shocked," said William Sanchez, president of the National Coalition of Latino Clergy and Christian Leaders Legal Defense Fund.
Mexico has warned the proposal could affect cross-border relations. On Thursday, Mexico's Senate unanimously passed a resolution urging Brewer to veto the law.
The Mafia and the drug cartel also thought that it could affect relations by the police arresting their people.
Guatemalan Vice President Rafael Estrada said the law "is a step back for those migrants who have fought" for their rights. Guatemala's Foreign Relations Department decried the measure in a statement saying "it threatens basic notions of justice."
OMG, gimme a break. "It threatens the basic notions of justice?"
Immigrants have the right to come through the front door and apply for citizenship just like people have done for generations.
What threatens the notion of justice is the fact that we have not enforced the immigration laws, have not gone after employers who hire illegal immigrants (who also violate wage and hour laws, OSHA, and other employment related laws by hiring illegal immigrants)
like it or not... WE as a nation are just as responsible for the problem as the immigrant that knowingly crossed the border illegally.
Because of greed, subminimum wages, etc. has encouraged people to take the risk and come here and to settle here for their families.
This has created a new generation of children who thanks to their parents indiscretion have placed them into a predicament where they must constantly look over their shoulder and risk deportation to a country that they had never known.
As I have said many times before, this is a really bad form of child abuse to place a child into this type of situation.
Here's my proposal...
Children who were brought here at an early age and have been here for several years would be granted amnesty.
The children's IMMEDIATE family (mother, father, brother, sister) would also be granted amnesty provided that they follow the INS requirements, which includes learning English.
All others would have one year to leave the country and will be allowed to apply through proper channels to reenter the country legally.
After one year, entering or being in the United States illegally changes from a misdemeanor to a felony, which include imprisonment.
The governor basically echoed the concerns and its citizens that if the federal government is not going to enforce the laws of our nation and protect its citizens, and the states will have to step in and do it themselves.
I do not fully agree with the new law, I do understand it.
Tuesday, April 20, 2010
If an employer is found not to have used E-Verify, the enforcement officer would issue a fine.
KATU--
Voters in Marion and Polk counties could decide in November whether their county governments should police the hiring of illegal immigrants.
The initiatives would require employers with five or more employees to use E-Verify, which is the free federal service that lets employers verify if someone can legally work in the United States. In addition, a county tip line would be established and a county enforcement officer would check out the tips. If an employer is found not to have used E-Verify, the enforcement officer would issue a fine.
I do not see how this is any different than the INS I-9 form which is supposed to verify that you have the right to work in the United States except for the fact that the form is a mute point because nobody ever looks at.
all an employer is currently required to do is to have an employee fill out the form, and then it goes into the file cabinet, and the information is not verified.
while E-verify is not a perfect system...perhaps at the very least, it will curb the use of stolen Social Security numbers.
Voters in Marion and Polk counties could decide in November whether their county governments should police the hiring of illegal immigrants.
The initiatives would require employers with five or more employees to use E-Verify, which is the free federal service that lets employers verify if someone can legally work in the United States. In addition, a county tip line would be established and a county enforcement officer would check out the tips. If an employer is found not to have used E-Verify, the enforcement officer would issue a fine.
I do not see how this is any different than the INS I-9 form which is supposed to verify that you have the right to work in the United States except for the fact that the form is a mute point because nobody ever looks at.
all an employer is currently required to do is to have an employee fill out the form, and then it goes into the file cabinet, and the information is not verified.
while E-verify is not a perfect system...perhaps at the very least, it will curb the use of stolen Social Security numbers.
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